Is this really a win for DreamHost (and other internet service providers)?

> DreamHost has been deputized to redact sensitive information

If DH was deputized to do this on behalf of the government, what limits are there to deputizing DH to do something else, possibly more nefarious, on behalf of the government? Why can't the DoJ now "deputize" Apple to produce the iOS with the backdoor?

Also important, who pays for the employee time for this? What about the opportunity cost of moving an employee off of her main duties onto this other duty that has no revenue benefit? Did this ruling just create an unfunded mandate for private businesses?

> We see this as an absolute victory not just for DreamHost, but for online service providers throughout America and for internet users around the world.

I think this statement requires far more analysis before it can be made.

EDIT: Oh good, Orin Kerr has started tweeting about this. I'd trust his judgment on the legal matters more than my armchair lawyering. https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/917923510462435328

Not having experience with disruptj20: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisruptJ20

DisruptJ20 (also Disrupt J20), a Washington, D.C.-based political organization founded in July 2016 and publicly launched on November 11 of the same year, stated its initial aim as protesting and disrupting events of the presidential inauguration of the 45th U.S. President, Donald Trump, which occurred on January 20, 2017. The protests organized and encouraged by the DisruptJ20 group were a part of a wider array of protests initiated by a variety of individuals and groups, in Washington, DC and nationwide; from a more extensive initial plan, deployments by DisruptJ20 at the inauguration eventually included efforts, at least, to blockade one bridge, and to attempt to shut down security checkpoints.

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I don't care either way about disruptj20, but I appreciate DreamHost's efforts, and the intervention by the court to curtail the overly broad demand for information.

Wow, I didn't expect to read that and see anything positive. Good job, Dreamhost. Maybe I should get rid of my Digital Ocean account and migrate over.

Would you defend the Daily Stormer?

http://fightthefuture.org/article/the-new-era-of-corporate-c...

Unpopular thoughts of the past century are accepted norms today.

This tiny court decision is a huge win. One that gives me hope for the future of our democracy on a day when I was tending to despair for it.

It's interesting how DreamHost picks and chooses which opinions it defends:

http://fightthefuture.org/article/the-new-era-of-corporate-c...

> Under this order, we now have the ability to redact all identifying information and protect the identities of users who interacted with disruptj20.org before handing over any data to the court. Chief Judge Morin acknowledged that the government “does not have the right to rummage through the information contained on DreamHost’s website” to “discover the identity of . . . individuals not participating in alleged criminal activity.”

That's interesting. Days before he left office, President Obama gave the NSA permission to share raw internet data with 16 other agencies (because of course he did...). That data should mostly include American citizens' information.

So I wonder if the EFF or ACLU can sue the White House/DoJ over expanding those rules, considering judges seem to not like such mass surveillance, as exemplified in this case.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more...

Happy to see the law work it out this way. Good of Dreamhost to stand up for privacy.

Unfortunately disrupt J20 is a violent group that promotes assault and anarchy against conservatives, so it's important that law enforcement officials are able to continue their investigation in some other way.

Members of this group were arrested and convicted in a plot to attack the inauguration ball using acid in the ventilation system and other alleged tactics.

This is amazing. Thank you, Dreamhost, for defending your customers' rights.

Good news.

But now, sadly, we need a service (i.e. Chrome extension?) that rates the depth of the pockets (and the size of "the stones") of the company hosting a site we're about to visit.

That aside, it there was smart and kbown way to picking hosting that's - more or less - beyond the reach of such things? Would AWS have been as upstanding as DH?

Not gonna lie, this headline scared me ;)

Good work Dreamhost, proud to be a customer!

It's great to see Dreamhost standing up for the right of their customer's website visitors. They don't have any financial incentive, but they still made it right. Makes me feel secure to know where they'd be ready to go for their own customers if you ever got targeted by an unlawful request.

The title sounds like they're shutting down. The article has a positive result though.

> We are now required to hand over a drastically reduced amount of data to the government and will redact any identifying information from every scrap of it that relates to non-subscribers.

Does anyone know what they mean by "non-subscribers"?

I have been using DreamHost for a decently long time. I signed up right around their infamous "billing issue" around 8-9 years ago; I naively -- and luckily -- ignored the huge red flag that was and bought in long and ard. This current development has only solidified my enjoyment of using them as my hosting service.

I am very glad they came out on top here and, to be honest, given recent events mu heart was sinking when I read the title but was uplifted when I read the content.

This is a big deal. Thank you.

What is disruptj20.org? I'm afraid to visit it.

Proud to be a DH customer today. Awesome news!

This makes me proud to have worked for Dreamhost. Great job friends!

That is impressive! More incentive to become a Dreamhost customer.

As I was reading "The end of the Dreamhost[...]". I started to feel very happy until I realized this is not their end but something else :(

Integrity....how weird.

Amazing results and glad they stood up. Looking into signing up!

I thought DH was going under when I saw that headline! Much happier result.

Can we have the title edited so it doesn't sound like a going-out-of-business post?

I'd suggest "The End of the DreamHost vs. DOJ privacy case".

Dreamhost once publicly exposed private information about products I had purchased from them over Twitter. I immediately switched providers.

This is the kind of stuff that happens when large groups of people still choose to live like slaves of a government, and believe that government is neccessary.