Toyota invests $394m in Joby Aviation's flying taxis

  • There are a lot of companies working on "flying taxis".

    All of those seem to have a large footprint with lots of rotors, meaning they will need dedicated landing/take off zones.

    This seems to limit their usability a lot, turning them more into a short range point to point helicopter service.

    Not to mention the noise pollution. Those things are all loud.

    Combine that with limited speed and range, and I just don't see the concept taking off in a big way.

    Some other competitors:

    * Volocopter: https://www.volocopter.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OazFiIhwAEs

    * Hyunday S-A1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6K7GAG1Aas

    * Bell Nexus: https://www.bellflight.com/products/bell-nexus

    * Ehang: https://www.ehang.com/ehang184/index https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d66MoI4GdFs

    * Kitty Hawk HeavySide (Larry Page pet project): https://kittyhawk.aero https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7mc3C19kE4

    * Lilium (branded as jet): https://lilium.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qotuu8JjQM

  • If an aircraft can’t glide or autorotate then I don’t understand how it can be safe at low altitudes. Because whole plane parachutes (BRS) have a minimum altitude required to open successfully, and that altitude is a lot higher than anyone would care to drop.

    Airplanes have energy from their forward motion. Helicopters have energy in their rotor blades. This energy can be used to soften a crash landing. Without this available energy, and without a parachute, then how do you soften a crash and survive?

    People say that electric motors are so reliable... But batteries can spontaneously combust.

    I would like to know how these aircraft are safe enough to be treated the same as a taxi ride.

  • This is pretty much everything you need to know about Toyota - everything you need to know about corporate Japan - wrapped up neatly in one anecdote. Toyota can’t make a plug-in electric car to save themselves but for white elephants like flying cars and smart cities they are all in.

  • Every $1 spent on noisy technology should require a $50 investment in tinnitus research.

  • As others have said, building the physical vehicles is a crowded space to enter, whereas there seem to be far fewer ventures involving the enabling infastructure (e.g. 3D spacetime routing/scheduling, monitoring, ledgering).

  • There are already commercial air taxis and helicopter services serving <300km market. Both are barely doing it financially.

    Now think how a technical solution grossly inferior to both helicopter and a prop plane will fare in the market.

  • Is it just me or...

    Why do we need to have startup founders and car companies try their hand at building a new experimental electric helicopter to validate whether or not the market wants to use helicopters for ride hailing?

  • They can carry five people 150 miles at up to 200 mph on a single charge?

    If that's accurate, isn't this a huge step forward for an electric vehicle?

  • One only see a few helicopters at time in typical city skyline.

    I wonder what happen if there are just 100 of them on the air at the same time.

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  • > Joby says it will manufacture prototypes at a facility in Marina, California, near Monterey, but plans to tap Toyota’s famous manufacturing prowess to build “highly reliable complex hardware at increased scale,” said Paul Sciarra, Joby’s executive chairman and a co-founder of Pinterest.

    More glorified complexity. I would pay more to ride in something with highly reliable simple hardware.

  • This makes a lot of sense for Toyota. Their hydrogen fuel cells probably make a lot more sense in this context.