Abuse and Estrangement by Adult Children: A Sad Secret

  • I wonder what the authors of this article are trying to achieve.

    Do they want to get back in touch with their estranged adult children? If that’s the goal then this approach is unlikely to be successful.

    It reads more like someone who is hurting, but doesn’t want to take responsibility for their part in the dynamic, so they’re making it the fault of the other party. It might make them feel better in the short term, but it’s a terrible long term strategy.

  • Can't really read this without first reading The Missing Missing Reasons.

    https://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-mis...

  • Having your children stop talking to you is not abuse, and trying to frame it as such is offensive to people who have been subjected to actual abuse.

    If your children have tried to stop talking to you, and you keep trying to contact them, and they name call or swear, that's not abuse. If they've said they want nothing to do with you, even if you don't agree with the reasons, and you keep trying to be involved in their lives, then they have a right to be angry at you for not respecting their wishes.

    Your children do not owe you anything.

    Now there are a whole host of reasons that children want nothing to do with their parents, and given this post does not list physical abuse, but does list "coldness", "bullshit", "biting the hand that feeds you"[1], and to me most notably "evil" as the abuses. That last one to me really puts this in the general feeling of parents who mistreat their children for being "evil" (they're LGBT, not conforming to whatever gender norms the parents have, aren't being religious enough, etc are the common ones), or just have those extreme American christian groups that encourage beating children, etc. Certainly I've seen enough cases of the former personally where the parents are abusive, but get upset when their children move out the moment they can and want nothing to do with them, and then have outbursts that are nearly identical to the "content" of this site.

    u/freddie_mercury correctly mentioned that if people haven't, that they should read The Missing Missing Reasons before taking this site at face value. Abusive parents seem extremely unwilling to acknowledge that anything they do is wrong, and therefore present any action taken by their children to distance themselves as being unreasonable and/or unfair (or "character assassination" as this site claims).

    I get that their are parents who may not know what they did, or maybe they did nothing at all, but their child[ren] joined one of the many religions and cults that require you cut out any family members who aren't also in that religion or cult, which I get would terrible, but the hyperbole and the terminology on this site screams "I am an abusive parent, think my children owe me, and they are required to include me in their adult lives regardless of any of my actions".

    [1] though again, your children do not owe you anything simply because you're doing what you are legally and morally required to do as a parent.

  • I have mixed feelings about this, because I've seen both sides intimately. There are definitely parents of assholes, and parents who screwed up but won't be forgiven, for sure.

    But I've also seen deeply narcissistic parents hang out in forums like this, who either refuse to, or are incapable of, acknowledging everything they did to drive their children away, even to themselves.

    Take the comments with a grain of salt, is all.

  • Is this supposed to be a gathering place for parents that don't know what "tit for tat" is? Those children probably have bottled up resentments.

  • I have a hard time taking this seriously. Power dynamic goes the other way around in the family. No doubt there are some people who are the nicest people in the world and their kid suffers from a mental disease and becomes abusive towards them, but how many can there possibly be? Just reading the comments about someone's daughter running away or having cannabis related psychosis is pretty out there.

  • What ?

  • The content of the post is underwhelming; the more interesting part is the comments.

    Nobody deserves this.

    If you think everything sucks and you truly want to make the world a better place, but don't know where to start, try showing kindness and empathy to the demographics the media has conditioned us to hate.

    There used to be a disabled older homeless guy living out of a van on my street. I saw him scavenging for cans and struggling to carry them while using his cane. His story was that his family were estranged; no reason stated, but I didn't question it since there was a sparkle in his eye when he talked about rare occasions to see his granddaughter-- and anytime I came around (despite never once asking me for money). I'd donate my own cans as an excuse to stop by and see how he was doing though. It made his day to know anyone on earth gave enough of a shit to think about him. He's far from the only one out there.