The oceans have broken temperature records every day over the past year

  • Human reasoning is an amazingly flexible thing. We've gone from "this problem doesn't exist" to "this is natural variance" to "even if it was real we shouldn't do anything about it because it would cost us and others aren't doing the same" to "well, it's too late now and we need to keep consuming to save ourselves from the consequences of our consumption". Anything to avoid inconveniencing ourselves or force significant & meaningful action to truly reign in the industries with the biggest effects on climate.

  • Looking at that graph and its implications, I kind of understand climate change deniers more than I did before[0]. It sure is scary, and creating an alternative reality where this is natural and something without dire consequences might help them with their mental health, as it is less taxing than facing the truth.

    We have already killed an incredible number of species, and doomed many more due to the system being slow to respond, even if we enacted radical measures now. However, it seems like most governments are happy to pass the buck to the next generation, as this is what the majority of voters want.

    [0] though there seems to be a shift from outright denial to denial of human causes nowadays

  • NASA/JPL predicted a major global warming anomaly arriving this past year due to the Tonga eruption of Jan 2022.

    They gave a forcing estimate of +0.15 Wm−2, equivalent to half a decade of global human CO2 forcing, arriving mainly at 18-24 months after Jan 2022 (ie the past year) and lasting for 5-10 years

    "the HT-HH eruption was unusual in that it injected extremely large amounts of H2O [into the stratosphere]. Preliminary climate model simulations suggest an effective radiative forcing at the tropopause of +0.15 Wm−2 due to the stratospheric H2O enhancement. For comparison, the radiative forcing increase due to the CO2 growth from 1996 to 2005 was about +0.26 Wm−2.

    "The excess H2O could arrive in northern and southern midlatitudes in ∼18 and ∼24 months, respectively, over a broad domain in the upper stratosphere... The timescale for complete dissipation of the plume may be 5–10 years

    https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/202...

  • I always seen the problem of climate change are being the wrong problem to name.

    We're destroying our environment through industrial by-products, deforestation, etc, and when the possibly biggest side-effect of all this planetary abuse starts being obvious, we only talk about that, and make it the only metric.

    Getting people to care about the environment is something possible, as other generations have done this better. It only if all your education of the general public and legislation starts from the premise that we need to keep the health of the entire world, in all aspects.

    Single metric carbon-tax is easily gamed by corporations and makes the general public apathetic. Maybe that's the goal for some lobbyists, but that's the battle from my point of view.

  • In south asia and south east asia the temps are reaching the point where like arab countries working hours will need to be changed and not be in the afternoon. Unlike the Arab countries South East Asian countries have a humid climate as heat is retained of longer so evening and night the temperature do not drop as much.

  • As the oceans warm, there's more humidity. More humidity, more latent heat of vaporization. This is the energy that powers thunderstorms and hurricanes.

    The planet was probably the warmest during the Cretaceous.

    The planet is warming up, even the USDA plant hardiness map was updated (I was in 6b now I'm 7a):

    https://www.npr.org/2023/11/17/1213600629/-it-feels-like-im-...

  • This is happening right now, 350+ cities under water:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/05/floodi...

  • "Learn to swim, see you down in Arizona Bay" - Bill Hicks/Tool

  • Related:

    12 months of record ocean heat has scientists puzzled and concerned

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39719391

  • We really gotta put sulfur back into maritime fuel, immediately. We thought we were doing the right thing to try to reduce a major source of pollution… but it turns out that those sulfur fuel emissions were also unintentionally geoengineering the atmosphere by seeding clouds across the open ocean.

    It’s not the solutikn, but it would help.

  • The future is not looking too bright on the climate change front. Anecdotally temperatures have consistently been 5-8 deg C warmer than average this Autumn in Pretoria.

    On the global war front things are looking pretty ominous too.

    John Mearsheimer remarked recently that he was glad he was born and lived in the post WW2 era.

  • We see the prisoners dilemma in action.

  • Related CNN/NOAA report from a few months ago:

    Global ocean heat has been at record levels every single day for the last year

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39756440

  • NYTimes report on the same Copernicus data from last month:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39997554

  • When I saw Avengers Endgame, seeing Thanos eradicate 50% of population for his perspective of “greater good” was chilling.

    With escalated tensions between super powers, I fear one crazy dictator may push a button to drop a nuke at a populated US city in the name of “most efficient way to reduce warming”. That escapes to a nuclear war.

    Nuclear war from physics would work as the smoke would block the sun having a cooling effect, and less people would mean less emissions. But people would need to live underground and it would be an absolute shit life worse than living in a warm world.

    Life is short, but I have this intrinsic fear that humans may perish before they figure out how to become a multi planet species.

  • If next year is way below predicted will this also be in the news, and isn't this exactly what you'd see if you were coming out of an ice age?

  • similar title, similar comments this time next year, forever?

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  • Is there a chart that goes back further than 1979?

  • That's a somewhat misleading way to say they're higher than the year before. This makes it sound like every day has not only been higher than the year before, but was also a new all-time high. That is not the case.