Geico repatriates work from the cloud, continues ambitious infra overhaul

  • I've directly participated in this project and all I have to say is this: the same madness that created a super complex and unmanageable environment in the cloud is now in charge of creating a super easy and manageable environment on premises. The PoC had barely been approved and there was already legacy stuff in the new production environment.

    Geico's IT will slow to a crawl in the next years due to the immense madness of supporting Kubernetes on top of OpenStack on top of Kubernetes (yes, that's what they are doing).

  • They had an expensive, fractured, hard to maintain on-prem layout. Then they moved to the cloud. And it turned out the cloud was expensive, fractured, and hard to maintain. So they're moving to on-prem.

    Any bets on what's going to happen next?

  • If you don't have strong seasonality or not expecting a significant ramp up of compute demand (true for startups) why bother with the cloud?

    It is not more secure, I read every quarter about downtime events, and more importantly you have 0 control of your costs.

    Your company is likely not Amazon, you will do fine if you have your on prem computers.

  • A company with the size and financial resources of Geico ought to be able to handle on-prem just fine. I am a huge public cloud fan, but it is definitely not a great (or even good) fit for everyone.

  • Cloud provides the CIO the same opportunities for advancement that COOs have had for years.

    Staff costs too high? Outsource. Opex too high? Insource.

    You can spend a career jumping among companies swinging the pendulum back and forth.

  • What a shame that the most interesting thing we can discuss about software now is where the computer its running on is located.

    I must admit. The computer was never the part of software that interested me.

  • I'd gladly pay 2.5x more to not use OpenStack ever again.

  • > In an interview with The Stack she confirmed the shift, saying “we have a lot of data – and it turns out that storage in the cloud is one of the most expensive things you can do in the cloud, followed by AI in the cloud…”

    This has been the story for 20 years now. Not even exaggerating. We all knew it was expensive from the get-go because we all did things on prem.

  • I feel like even in Geico's case, once they've paid salaries for everyone who's going to need to maintain this infra they're bringing in-house they're probably not saving that much. Then again, maybe they were already paying those salaries redundantly to all the services they were spending on, e.g. managed databases.

  • Is building things cloud provider agnostic a thing? Is building things cloud or on prem agnostic a thing?

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